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Wednesday, 25 March 2026

Anastasius Sinaita: The Guide Chapter 9: Concerning Nature and Hypostasis

In Book three Chapter 3 of On the Orthodox Faith John of Damascus writes the following.

However, the reason for the heretics' error is their saying that nature and hypostasis (person) are the same thing.

The editor has a footnote that reads "Anastasius Sinaite. The Guide 9 (PG 89.140ff)."  This one sentence is used by Jay Dyer to assert that the West is full of heresy because they allegedly confuse or conflate person and nature. 

11:32 Actually Gerard has a chapter, uh, in his book Church Schism papacy where he points out that that leads to the medieval Latin view of the mysticion corporis that's juridical and then the mysticium corporis that's mystical. So they kind of split up these different kind of views of like the juridical body of Christ which is like the, um, the hierarchy and then there's the, like, the lower level Body of Christ which is, you know, the the mirror, you know, uh, peasants or whatever. And then there was even a, I forget the guy's name but, uh, the, the, the two bodies of the king like the guy who you know wrote that famous book that was kind of analyzing the how this played into the Western conception of church and state. So I'm not trying to go crazy here I'm sorry but but the point is that the the way that you view God and person and nature as Saint John Damascus says all heresies arise from the failure to distinguish nature in person. And distinguishing doesn't mean composition or division necessarily it just means distinction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ozbc1wp3eY

I am not going to refute Jay Dyer's absurd notion that the West does not distinguish between person and nature.  The point is to have the full reference from Anastasius which is nowhere to be found in English. This translation was made using Gemini.


pgs. 134-142


The Guide: Chapter IX

Concerning Nature and Hypostasis

[IX, 1] 9. Concerning Nature and Hypostasis; from the Holy Synod at Nicaea.

There once cropped up a certain evil pair, a seed of tares from the heresiarchs (just like a certain Annas and Caiaphas, or Pilate and Herod), blaspheming against God; I mean Arius and Sabellius, the teachers of Severus. These men also said that nature and person () are the same thing.

Sabellius, on the one hand, spoke of one person and one essence (ousia) in the Holy Trinity; Arius, on the other hand, spoke of three persons and three essences. Both of them, however, said that nature and person are the same thing. Overturning their impiety and such a mindset, the holy, blessed, and first-born of the Holy Spirit—the Ecumenical Synod of the 318 renowned Fathers in Nicaea—clearly teaches us that essence () or nature () is one thing, and hypostasis is another. Thus it cries out:

"But those who say: 'There was a time when the Son of God was not,' and 'Before He was begotten He was not,' and that 'He came into existence from nothing,' or who assert that the Son of God is of another hypostasis or essence, or is changeable or alterable—these the holy catholic and apostolic Church anathematizes."

Let them stand, therefore, condemned as criminals before this holy and blessed Synod, paying the penalty for their own blasphemies: both the followers of Severus and Dioscorus, and the entire assembly of their ten-horned vanity, who say that nature and hypostasis—that is, person—are the same thing.

For behold, the angelic choir of the holy Fathers teaches that essence is one thing and hypostasis is another. For they did not say: "those who say [the Son is] from another hypostasis that is essence," but rather "from another hypostasis OR essence," clearly teaching us that hypostasis is one thing and essence is another. And they did not stop the discourse at this point, but they even repeated such an expression through this doubling, confirming and establishing it; and he says again:

"For we know the Father as Father, and the Son as Son, and the Holy Spirit as Holy Spirit; one essence, but three hypostases."

And they did not say "three essences or three hypostases," nor did they say "three natures and three persons," as the foolish ones say, but rather one essence and three hypostases, saying that essence is one thing () and hypostasis is another ().

Behold the foundation-stone of the faith of the Fathers! Behold the root and beginning and basis of piety! Behold the luminaries and heralds of the truth! Behold the unshakable and invincible pillars and defenders! Behold the spirit-bearing and prophetic men, equal to the angels! They say nature is one thing and hypostasis is another. And who, finally, is that man who is able to overturn such a canon and definition and law?

For I am persuaded and I so believe that there were present in that holy Synod god-bearing men, who possessed a prophetic and apostolic measure and way of life before God; and it is permitted for them to say with all boldness even to those [others]: "Even if an angel from heaven should preach a gospel to the Church contrary to what we have preached as the gospel and what we have proclaimed to her, let him be anathema—both he and his preaching."

Therefore, let the Catholic Church take courage, having 318 holy advocates who are in agreement, saying that nature is one thing and hypostasis is another; for the gates of Hades shall not prevail against her, nor shall they overturn such a definition and law. So then, as before God, I say without partiality or prejudice, that to those who think correctly against Severus and Dioscorus and all those who say that nature, hypostasis, and person are the same thing, the Holy Synod in Nicaea is found to have taken place; and not only that, but also against the impious Nestorius; for he also, like Severus, says that person is nature.

For if nature is person, then the Holy Synod of Nicaea deposed Sabellius without cause—he who spoke of "one person" regarding the one essence of the Holy Trinity. If nature is person and person is nature, how was Arius anathematized for speaking of "three natures" regarding the three persons of the Godhead?

If "nature" signifies "person," I proclaim a great curse upon Severus and Theodosius, which shall be upon all their people who speak of Christ [being] "from two natures"; for they will certainly be found also to be speaking of Him as being from two persons, if indeed nature and person are the same thing. How, then, will they be able to bring a charge against Nestorius, while they themselves are thinking the things of Nestorius?

For if Christ is from two persons, it is manifest that the person of the man pre-existed in the womb, and then in this way was united into the person of the Godhead of the God-Word. If Christ is from two "personal natures," behold, the one person is addressed as God-Word; let those who say that nature and person are the same thing tell us, then, the address and the name of the other person of Christ; for a person is never without a name.

If you sincerely and without prejudice assert that nature and person are the same, then commit to saying "one person"regarding the "one essence" of the Godhead [the Trinity], and we shall cease from the struggle. If the persons are according to the number of the natures, then say "three natures" regarding the "three persons" of the Trinity, and we will no longer trouble you.

When you say that Christ is consubstantial () with the Father according to the Godhead and consubstantialwith us according to the humanity—if essence (ousia) and person (prosopon) are the same thing—then say that He is "con-personal" () with the Father according to the Godhead and "con-personal" with us according to the humanity, and we shall cease the war. If nature and person are the same thing, and since the persons of men are many and innumerable, then say that our natures are also many, and we shall be silent and fight no more.

Stand before me a little while, O heretic, and receive—just as Goliath did—the Davidic stones from the sling! Since Severus confesses that Christ is from two hypostases, that is, persons, it is manifest that you say He is composed from a Godhead and from a humanity; for these are what you address as "hypostases"—that is, the Godhead and the humanity. When, therefore, you say that He (that is, Christ) is perfect after the union in Godhead and perfect in humanity, it is manifest that you are convicted of confessing Him in two hypostases, that is, persons—if indeed nature, hypostasis, and person exist as one thing, as you lay down the law.

Scholion: A saying of an Orthodox to a Theodosian: It is sufficient for those who think rightly to say that Christ is "perfect from Godhead and from humanity"; for the phrase signifies the two natures.

Scholion: When the heretic said, "The [phrase] 'from two natures' rather signifies that He is from Godhead and from humanity," the Orthodox man, smiling, said: "Therefore, O best of men, that He is 'perfect in Godhead and in humanity' clearly represents Him [as being] in two natures."


[IX, 2] <Testimonies of the Holy Fathers who also say that nature is one thing and hypostasis is another.>

And so that we do not seem to our opponents to be speaking "from our own house," let us call into our midst the holy Fathers, who say that nature is one thing and person is another. I do not know if, perhaps fearing the deposition [inflicted] by Severus, they [the opponents] will no longer dare to utter the expression "two natures."

I shall set forth first, as the pre-eminent one, the divinely-inspired Cyril, since, as they believe, they attempt to wage war against us using him. For he said, speaking thus to the Easterners:

"Regarding the evangelical and apostolic expressions concerning the Lord, we know that theologians make some common to one person, while they divide others as between two natures." Behold, the Father clearly does not say that nature and person are the same thing.

"But," [the heretic] says, "Cyril made a defense to Eulogius concerning such an expression."

Scholion: It must be known that even in that very Letter to Eulogius, the holy Cyril spoke of the "one and the other" nature of the Godhead and of the flesh of Christ.

Tell me, O heretic, what is this "defense"? For if the marvelous Cyril withdrew from communion with the Easterners after such an expression, then show it; but you will not be able to show this. Therefore, having remained in communion with those who confess two united natures, it is manifest that he himself also thought the same things.

Did he also reject Proclus, who openly and to everyone proclaimed two natures? Did he also cast out Ambrose, who taught the expression of two natures, and whose testimonies he [Cyril] brought forward in the Synod of the Ephesians? Did he also push away Isidore of Pelusium, who wrote to him regarding the two natures of Christ—a man whom the holy Cyril even addresses as his own "father"?

Furthermore, not only in the Letter to the Easterners, but also in the Answers to Hermeias who asked if nature is one thing and hypostasis another, the Father clearly says thus:

"Yes, they are different (), and the difference between them is great."

Likewise, the god-minded Basil says to Amphilochius:

"The hypostasis has this [kind of] difference compared to the essence (), as the particular () has compared to the common ()." Having received this [teaching], the holy Amphilochius says concerning Christ:

"Double in essence (), but not double in hypostasis." This testimony of Amphilochius was again brought forward by the God-revealer Cyril in Ephesus against the impious Nestorius. Likewise, in the Letter to Seleucus, the son of Trajan, Amphilochius uses the same expression, saying:

"The double natures () concur into one person ()."

Do you hear the harmony of the Fathers and of the blessed Cyril, saying that nature is one thing and person is another? And how, finally, do you not cease whispering in vain and saying: "Nature is not without a person (aprosopos), but nature and person are the same thing"?

Show me from which of the Fathers you received the authority to say this! But you will not be able to show it, unless [you cite] AriusSabellius, and Nestorius, who say that nature and person are the same thing. Therefore, overturning such a dogma, all the blessed Fathers—and especially those around AmbroseGregory, and Athanasius—proclaim one nature of God in three persons (), that is, hypostases, and not three essences, but one; just as the blessed Synod of the 318 God-bearing Fathers in Nicaea taught.

But these "wise" ones and new orators have chosen to cast themselves down into ten thousand abysses and blasphemies, so that, as they suppose, they might insult the Holy Council of Chalcedon and the Catholic Church of Christ.

But if you wish, I will speak to you more summarily. All those who, according to the definition of Greek philosophy, speak in an Aristotelian manner, of natures as hypostases and persons, are not able to speak of three hypostases regarding the Holy Trinity, lest they be found speaking of "three natures" like Arius. Nor, again, is it possible for them to confess two natures in Christ our God, lest they be forced to confess two persons and hypostases in a Nestorian manner regarding Him; for Nestorius also received from Aristotle [the habit of] saying that natures are hypostases.

But the Holy Church, having fled from Aristotelian and Greek vanities, believing the things concerning Christ in a Gospel-like and Apostolic way (as was said a short while ago), does not say that nature and hypostasis are the same thing.

But what will the followers of Severus say to all this? Perhaps they will say: "Regarding the discourse on the Trinity, nature and hypostasis are not the same thing; but regarding the Incarnation of Christ (the one of the Holy Trinity), nature and person—that is, hypostasis—are the same thing; for there is no nature without a person (aprosopos)."

When they say these things, I eagerly receive the statement and embrace such a definition with open hands; I do not reject it, but I go along with it. What impious thing, then, is born for them from this? And into what abysses of destruction and blasphemy do they fall? Listen, O faithful one, to a certain account and dramatization by us regarding such things that took place in Alexandria with the Theodosians and Gaianites, who were contending with us there that nature and person are the same thing regarding the economy of Christ.

For I will now add this along with those things for the information of those who preside over the pious faith of the Holy Catholic Church.

Tuesday, 4 June 2024

St Augustine: The Helplessness of Infancy is Punishment For Sin

In Book one, Chapter 68 of On the Merits and Forgiveness of Sins and on the Baptism of Infants St. Augustine posits that the prolonged helplessness of infancy is a penal result of Adam's fall. Had Adam not sinned perhaps infants would have grown much quicker. Augustine also compares the sustained helplessness of infants with the quick growth of animals. 

The question which we are now discussing is not about Adam in respect of the size of his body, why he was not made an infant but in the perfect greatness of his members. It may indeed be said that the beasts were thus created likewise — nor was it owing to their sin that their young were born small. Why all this came to pass we are not now asking. But the question before us has regard to the vigor of man's mind and his use of reason, by virtue of which Adam was capable of instruction, and could apprehend God's precept and the law of His commandment, and could easily keep it if he would; whereas man is now born in such a state as to be utterly incapable of doing so, owing to his dreadful ignorance and weakness, not indeed of body, but of mind — although we must all admit that in every infant there exists a rational soul of the self-same substance (and no other) as that which belonged to the first man. Still this great infirmity of the flesh, clearly, in my opinion, points to a something, whatever it may be, that is penal. It raises the doubt whether, if the first human beings had not sinned, they would have had children who could use neither tongue, nor hands, nor feet. That they should be born children was perhaps necessary, on account of the limited capacity of the womb. But, at the same time, it does not follow, because a rib is a small part of a man's body, that God made an infant wife for the man, and then built her up into a woman. In like manner, God's almighty power was competent to make her children also, as soon as born, grown up at once.

But not to dwell on this, that was at least possible to them which has actually happened to many animals, the young of which are born small, and do not advance in mind (since they have no rational soul) as their bodies grow larger, and yet, even when most diminutive, run about, and recognize their mothers, and require no external help or care when they want to suck, but with remarkable ease discover their mothers' breasts themselves, although these are concealed from ordinary sight. A human being, on the contrary, at his birth is furnished neither with feet fit for walking, nor with hands able even to scratch; and unless their lips were actually applied to the breast by the mother, they would not know where to find it; and even when close to the nipple, they would, notwithstanding their desire for food, be more able to cry than to suck. This utter helplessness of body thus fits in with their infirmity of mind; nor would Christ's flesh have been in the likeness of sinful flesh, unless that sinful flesh had been such that the rational soul is oppressed by it in the way we have described — whether this too has been derived from parents, or created in each case for the individual separately, or inspired from above — concerning which I forbear from inquiring now.

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/15011.htm

Monday, 22 August 2022

An Error in the Confession of Peter Mogila Concerning the Sabbath

In 1642 Peter Mogila wrote a Confession of Faith which has stood the test of time and is used to this day for instruction in the Eastern Orthodox Church

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petro_Mohyla

However this confession has an error in it.

In part 3 question 60 Peter writes that in the 91st canon of the sixth ecumenical council we are told how to worship on the Lord's Day.

The Orthodox Confession of St Peter Mogila
Now, after what manner the Lord’s day ought to be observed the sixth General Council teacheth in the ninety-first canon. Moreover, another cause of transferring the Sabbath to the Lord’s Day is this, namely, that Christ is Lord of the Sabbath, according to the Scripture (Matt. 12.8), For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath-day. If, therefore, Christ be Lord of the Sabbath, then surely the Sabbath is with great reason transferred to the Lord’s Day, both because Christ might not seem to be in any subjection thereunto, and also because on that day, and none other, did Christ arise from the dead: Whereby the World, as to its eternal salvation, was renewed and restored.
There are two problems here. The first, for the causal reader who may not be familiar with the ecumenical councils, is that neither the fifth nor the sixth councils promulgated any canons. Instead the Quinisext council filled that gap. 
The Quinisext Council, i.e. the Fifth-Sixth Council, often called the Council in TrulloTrullan Council, or the Penthekte Synod, was a church council held in 692 at Constantinople under Justinian II. It is known as the "Council in Trullo" because, like the Sixth Ecumenical Council, it was held in a domed hall in the Imperial Palace (τρούλος meaning a cup or dome). Both the Fifth and the Sixth Ecumenical Councils had omitted to draw up disciplinary canons, and as this council was intended to complete both in this respect, it took the name of Quinisext.
That may not be an error per se but it does need clarification.

The second error is that the correct reference is not to the 91st canon but to the 90th.
Canon 91:

As for women who furnish drugs for the purpose of procuring abortion, and those who take foetus-killing poisons, they are made subject to the penalty prescribed for murderers.


Canon 90:

We have received it canonically from our God-bearing Fathers not to bend the knee on Sundays when honoring the Resurrection of Christ, since this observation may not be clear to some of us, we are making it plain to the faithful, so that after the entrance of those in holy orders into the sacrificial altar on the evening of the Saturday in question, let none of them bend a knee until the evening of the following Sunday, when, after the entrance during the Lychnic, again bending knees, we thus begin offering our prayers to the Lord. For inasmuch as we hare received it that the night succeeding Saturday was the precursor of our Savior’s rising, we commence our hymns at this point spiritually, ending the festival by passing out of darkness into light, in order that we may hence celebrate en masse the Resurrection for a whole day and a whole night.

Canon 91 forbids the procurement of drugs for an abortion while canon 90 discusses how  the Lord's Day is to be observed. How has this error gone overlooked for 380 years? 

Wednesday, 19 January 2022

St. John Chrysostom on Ugly Women and Men

In his 27th sermon on Acts St. John Chrysostom tells us what makes men and women ugly. It is drunkenness and gluttony. The remedy is eating and drinking only for health and fasting.

Nothing uglier than a woman given to luxury, nothing uglier than a woman given to drink. The bloom of her complexion is faded: the calm and mild expression of the eyes is rendered turbid, as when a cloud intercepts the rays of the sunshine. It is a vulgar, (ἀ νελεύθερον) slave-like, thoroughly low-lived habit. How disgusting is a woman when from her breath you catch sour whiffs of fetid wine: a woman belching, giving out a fume (χυμὸν) of decomposing meats; herself weighed down, unable to keep upright; her face flushed with an unnatural red; yawning incessantly, and everything swimming in a mist before her eyes! But not such, she that abstains from luxurious living: no (this abstinence makes her look) a more beautiful, well-bred (σωφρονεστέραwoman. For even to the body, the composure of the soul imparts a beauty of its own. Do not imagine that the impression of beauty results only from the bodily features. Give me a handsome girl, but turbulent (τεταραγμένην), loquacious, railing, given to drink, extravagant, (and tell me) if she is not worse-looking than any ugly woman? But if she were bashful, if she would hold her peace, if she learned to blush, if to speak modestly (συμμέτρως), if to find time for fastings; her beauty would be twice as great, her freshness would be heightened, her look more engaging, fraught with modesty and good breeding (σωφροσύνης καὶ κοσμιότητος). 

Now then, shall we speak of men? What can be uglier than a man in drink? He is an object of ridicule to his servants, of ridicule to his enemies, of pity to his friends; deserving condemnation without end: a wild beast rather than a human being; for to devour much food is proper to panther, and lion, and bear. No wonder (that they do so), for those creatures have not a reasonable soul. And yet even they, if they be gorged with food more than they need, and beyond the measure appointed them by nature, get their whole body ruined by it: how much more we? Therefore has God contracted our stomach into a small compass; therefore has He marked out a small measure of sustenance, that He may instruct us to attend to the soul.

Christ is pining through hunger, and are you frittering yourself away (διασπᾅς) with gluttony? Two inconsistencies (Δύο ἀμετρίαι). For what evil does not luxury cause? It is contrary to itself: so that I know not how it gets its name: but just as that is called glory, which is (really) infamy, and that riches, which in truth is poverty, so the name of luxury is given to that which in reality is nauseousness. Do we intend ourselves for the shambles, that we so fatten ourselves? Why cater for the worm that it may have a sumptuous larder? Why make more of their humors (ἰχὥρας)? Why store up in yourself sources of sweat and rank smelling? Why make yourself useless for everything? 

Do you wish your eye to be strong? Get your body well strung? For in musical strings, that which is coarse and not refined, is not fit to produce musical tones, but that which has been well scraped, stretches well, and vibrates with full harmony. Why do you bury the soul alive? Why make the wall about it thicker? Why increase the reek and the cloud, with fumes like a mist steaming up from all sides? If none other, let the wrestlers teach you, that the more spare the body, the stronger it is: and (then) also the soul is more vigorous. 

In fact, it is like charioteer and horse. But there you see, just as in the case of men giving themselves to luxury, and making themselves plump, so the plump horses are unwieldy, and give the driver much ado. One may think one's self (ἀ γαπητὸν) well off, even with a horse obedient to the rein and well-limbed, to be able to carry off the prize: but when the driver is forced to drag the horse along, and when the horse falls, though he goad him ever so much, he cannot make him get up, be he ever so skilful himself, he will be deprived of the victory. Then let us not endure to see our soul wronged because of the body, but let us make the soul herself more clear-sighted, let us make her wing light, her bonds looser: let us feed her with discourse, with frugality, (feeding) the body only so much that it may be healthy, that it may be vigorous, that it may rejoice and not be in pain: that having in this sort well ordered our concerns, we may be enabled to lay hold upon the highest virtue, and to attain unto the eternal good things by the grace and loving-kindness of our Lord Jesus Christ, with Whom, to the Father and Holy Ghost together, be glory, dominion, honor, now and ever, world without end. Amen.

Monday, 19 April 2021

The God Culture: A Closer Look at Jubilees as Cited by The Church Fathers

This is a cross-post from my other blog. It is relevant here as the subject matter is the canonical status of the Book of Jubilees and in particular how it was employed by the Church Fathers.

The Book of Jubilees is very critical to Timothy Jay Schwab of The God Culture's project of proving that the Philippines is the Garden of Eden and the land of creation. One of Tim's arguments for including the Book of Jubilees as canonical scripture is that many of the Church Fathers cited the book as scripture. In his annotated Book of Jubilees Tim provides a list of Fathers who cited from Jubilees.


The Book of Jubilees, Timothy Jay Schwab, pgs 40-41

That list is quite nonsensical because there is no indication of what works exactly is being referring to. Tim has taken this list mostly from R.H. Charles but provides no link or reference where it can be found. It can be found in the introduction to his translation of The Book of Jubilees but with a whole lot more information than Tim has provided. Several of those authors are cited at length in the Codex Pseudepigraphus Veteris Testamenti on pages 849-864. The text is in Latin. 

In this article I propose to look at three of those sources to ascertain just how they employed the text of Jubilees. Did they cite it? Yes. But did they cite it as canonical scripture? That's what we are going to find out. I will only be looking at three of these citations because of space and lack of availability of the original sources. The three are: Jerome, Epiphanius, and the Decretum Gelasii. I believe these three sources will show a normative trend within the Church as regards the canonical status of Jubilees.

First the Decretum Gelasii. In his Torah Test Tim crows that a Pope quoted Jubilees.

Certainly the church quoted Jubilees, even a Pope.

Jubilees, Timothy Jay Schwab, p. 41

Here is what Charles writes about what this Pope said about Jubilees.

Decretum Gelasii. — In this decree (de libris recipiendis et non recipiendis), the date of which is doubtful (see Zahn, Gesch. des Kanons, ii. i. 259-267), our book is included among the writings to be rejected: Liber de filiabus Adae, hoc est Leptogenesis apocryphus.

Once again Tim does not know what he is taking about. Pope Gelasius does not quote Jubilees. The Decree of Pope Gelasius places the Book of Jubilees on the list of rejected books. Why? We are not told but the book is included in a long list with various spurious Acts, Gospels, and Revelations. There were many false gospels and other texts floating around long ago and the church needed to determine what was and was not scripture. There were many deciding factors but the canon was generally agreed upon by all before this point as seen in its liturgy and the bulk of orthodox literature. The councils which promulgated such lists only confirmed what was already widely practiced. In fact the list of canonical books in the Decretum Gelsaii actually originates with the Council of Rome in 382. The list of prohibited books is newly appended. The list of accepted and prohibited books as well as the entire decree can be read at this link. It also includes a list of approved Orthodox teachers whose writings are profitable to read. Oddly enough this list bans Eusebius's Church History. 

Tim repeats ad nauseam that the Church has no right to ban books which were accepted as scripture.  What does he do with this list? Are we to accept every book that comes along proclaiming to be a Gospel or a Revelation? Of course not. The first canon of the New Testament was promulgated by the heretic Marcion. The Church was forced to meet his challenge. Subsequent councils and theologians decreed what was and was not scripture and to be read in the Church in order to safeguard the Church from false teachers. This raises the question of how we can know what is and is not scripture. The answer is pretty simple, the witness and testimony of the Church which is Christ's body on earth and the pillar and ground of the truth.  As Augustine said:

But should you meet with a person not yet believing the gospel, how would you reply to him were he to say, I do not believe? For my part, I should not believe the gospel except as moved by the authority of the Catholic Church

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/1405.htm

Tim shows his hate for the Church by proclaiming that it was taken over by Satan in the early first century. He blasphemes the Church with such pernicious doctrine. Once again St. Augustine takes him to task.

Let us love our Lord God, let us love His Church: Him as a Father, Her as a Mother: Him as a Lord, Her as His Handmaid, as we are ourselves the Handmaid's sons. But this marriage is held together by a bond of great love: no man offends the one, and wins favour of the other. 

What does it serve you, if you acknowledge the Lord, honour God, preach His name, acknowledge His Son, confess that He sits by His right hand; while you blaspheme His Church? 

Hold then, most beloved, hold all with one mind to God the Father, and the Church our Mother.

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/1801089.htm

What is Timothy Jay Schwab's epistemic ground for accepting the Bible as scripture when he rejects the Church's authority to prescribe what is and proscribe what is not scripture? He has no ground except himself and his subjective "testing" which is very shaky ground to stand on. I know he will retort by appealing to the community at Qumran but they did not compile the New Testament. There were no letters of Paul or Gospels found in the caves at Qumran. Frankly he has no ground to stand on for his acceptance of the New Testament except his own opinion. Tim is fond of the Cepher Bible saying that "all in his group has one" and that he "loves it in his personal studies."  But that Bible version adds not only to the Old Testament but also the New with the insertion of Acts 29. That he would accept such a Bible as genuine shows that he does not base his canon of the New Testament on the witness of the Church.


The residents of Qumran were also not representative of some remnant of the "True Israel©" which preserved the scriptures as opposed to the Pharisees and Saducees. Jesus called out their hypocrisy but still said the Pharisees sit in the seat of Moses and commanded the people to do as they say (Matthew 23:2-3). He never called them pretenders. We never find Jesus Christ arguing the doctrine Tim preaches concerning Qumran vs Jerusalem. Again, these decrees prescribing scripture and proscribing spurious books were not introducing anything new. They were confirmation of the regular practice of the Church.

The final biblical canon for both religious communities was determined not by a council so much as by widespread use of sacred literature in the communities of faith. Councils typically confirm widespread practice, and that was the case when decisions about canon were made by councils in the fourth and fifth centuries and later: they simply endorsed choices made earlier by majorities or by consensus and convenience rather than by conscious council decisions. Bruce correctly states: “It is probable that, when the canon was ‘closed’ in due course by competent authority, this simply meant that official recognition was given to the situation already obtaining in the practice of the worshipping community.”

The Biblical Canon, Lee Martin McDonald, pg. 160

The implication is that Jubilees was excluded from the canon because it was never considered to be part of the canon by the Church in her practice or doctrine and not because the Church was taken over by Satan and he used the Bishops to cover up the truth. Such thinking is anti-Christian and contradicts Jesus' saying that he would build his Church and the gates of hell would not triumph over it.

This decree was promulgated around 492 and the reason I cite it first is because any citation of Jubilees  after this date will not be cited as scripture. Any citation after this date which does so in a manner affirming the canonicity of Jubilees is out of line with the teaching of the Church. So we can dispense with those citations. That really only leaves two important citations before this decree and those are Jerome and Epiphanus.

Here is what R.H. Charles writes about Jerome:

Jerome {ob. 420). — See quotations in notes on x. 21, xi. 11-13. For other quotations see Index II.

The references Charles gives lead to Jerome's epistle 78. Here is what Jerome says about Jubilees.

This word, memory suggests, I know I never found elsewhere in holy scripture among the Hebrews, except in an apocrypha book, Genesis, which is called lepte, that is small, by the Greeks; there is it put in the building of the tower for stadium, in which boxers and athletes exercize and the speed of runners is tested.

https://epistolae.ctl.columbia.edu/letter/365.html

Here Jerome calls Jubilees apocryphal. He also counts Jubilees among the Holy Scripture of the Hebrews which would seem to contradict its being apocryphal. In section 26 of this same letter he draws a lesson from the Book of Jubilees where Abraham drove away the ravens from the corn.
I find in the above mentioned apocryphal volume Geneseos when the ravens who had been laying waste men’s grain are driven away, the name father Abraham written with this same word and these letters, as the one who drives away or repells them. So we may imitate Thare and be careful to keep away the birds of heaven which hasten to devour a lot of wheat beside the road. 
That he could draw a lesson from a book he considers apocryphal is not strange as he writes elsewhere in letter 107.12 that some gold could be found in the midst of the dirt of apocryphal writings.
Let her avoid all apocryphal writings, and if she is led to read such not by the truth of the doctrines which they contain but out of respect for the miracles contained in them; let her understand that they are not really written by those to whom they are ascribed, that many faulty elements have been introduced into them, and that it requires infinite discretion to look for gold in the midst of dirt.
Anyone familiar with Church history would know that Jerome is the man who gave the world the Vulgate. He lived in Jerusalem and was familiar with Hebrew, Greek, and Latin. He was also familiar with all the various literature circulating in his day. It is therefore no surprise he was aware of Jubilees. But he excludes it from his list of canonical scripture despite referring to it as "holy scripture among the Hebrews." As a man who lived and breathed the scriptures it would be foolish to think he was unaware of what books belonged in the Hebrew canon as well as the traditions surrounding Jubilees and other pseudepigrapha such as Enoch. Here is his list of the Hebrew canon:

The first of these books is called Bresith, to which we give the name Genesis. The second, Elle Smoth, which bears the name Exodus; the third, Vaiecra, that is Leviticus; the fourth, Vaiedabber, which we call Numbers; the fifth, Elle Addabarim, which is entitled Deuteronomy. These are the five books of Moses, which they properly call Thorath, that is law. 

The second class is composed of the Prophets, and they begin with Jesus the son of Nave, who among them is called Joshua the son of Nun. Next in the series is Sophtim, that is the book of Judges; and in the same book they include Ruth, because the events narrated occurred in the days of the Judges. Then comes Samuel, which we call First and Second Kings. The fourth is Malachim, that is, Kings, which is contained in the third and fourth volumes of Kings. And it is far better to say Malachim, that is Kings, than Malachoth, that is Kingdoms. For the author does not describe the Kingdoms of many nations, but that of one people, the people of Israel, which is comprised in the twelve tribes. The fifth is Isaiah, the sixth, Jeremiah, the seventh, Ezekiel, the eighth is the book of the Twelve Prophets, which is called among the Jews Thare Asra. 

To the third class belong the Hagiographa, of which the first book begins with Job, the second with David, whose writings they divide into five parts and comprise in one volume of Psalms; the third is Solomon, in three books, Proverbs, which they call Parables, that is Masaloth, Ecclesiastes, that is Coeleth, the Song of Songs, which they denote by the title Sir Assirim; the sixth is Daniel; the seventh, Dabre Aiamim, that is, Words of Days, which we may more expressively call a chronicle of the whole of the sacred history, the book that amongst us is called First and Second Chronicles; the eighth, Ezra, which itself is likewise divided amongst Greeks and Latins into two books; the ninth is Esther. 

https://www.fourthcentury.com/jerome-samuel-392/

The list looks like this:

Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges/Ruth, 1-2 Kings. 3-4 Kings, Isaiah,  Jeremiah, Ezekiel, the Twelve minor prophets, Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon,  Daniel,1 -2 Chronicles, 1-2 Esdras, Esther.

That is 22 books and it does not include Jubilees. It also predates the Drectum Gelasii to the year 392. It is in alignment with the Council of Rome from 382 except it excludes Tobit, Judith, and Maccabees and the numbering is not the same due to some books, such as the Twelve minor prophets, being counted as one. Why he does not include Jubilees in this canon despite referring to it as "holy scripture among the Hebrews" is uncertain.


That brings us to our third source, Epiphanius. Here is what R.H.Charles writes concerning his witness to Jubilees:

Epiphanius {ob. 404 a.d.), Haer. xxxix. 6, See Jub. iv. 9, 11 and the continuation of the quotation in my note on iv. 10. For passages where Epiphanius has used our text without acknowledgment see Index II.

There are actually quite a few places in his Panarion where Epiphanius cites Jubilees. I will only look at one. It is as follows:

6,1 But as we find in Jubilees which is also called “The Little Genesis,” the book even contains the names of both Cain’s and Seth’s wives, so that the persons who recite myths to the world may be put to shame in every way. (2) For after Adam had sired sons and daughters it became necessary at that time that the boys marry their own sisters. Such a thing was not unlawful, as there was no other human stock. (3) Indeed, in a manner of speaking Adam himself practically married his own daughter who was fashioned from his body and bones and had been formed by God in conjunction with him, and it was not unlawful. (4) And his sons were married, Cain to the older sister, whose name was Saue; and a third son, Seth, who was born after Abel, to his sister named Azura. 

6,5 And Adam had other sons too as the Little Genesis says, nine after these three, so that he had two daughters but twelve sons, one of whom was killed but eleven survived. (6) You have the reflection of them too in the Genesis of the World, the first Book of Moses, which says, “And Adam lived 930 years, and begat sons and daughters, and died.”

Panarion, Epiphanius, pg. 280

In this passage Epiphanius is very clearly citing from Jubilees in order to confute the Sethians a group of gnostic heretics who believed Seth was not a mere man. But does that mean he considered the Book of Jubilees to be canonical scripture? No. He never lists the book in his canon. However, he draws extensively from its pages and uses it authoritatively. Read "From Jewish Apocrypha to Christian Tradition: Citations of Jubilees in Epiphanius's Panarion" for an insightful study on his use of this book within the context of canon formation in the 4th centuryDespite his usage of this text as authoritative it should be noted that one man does not make the tradition of the Church. The article covers a lot of ground and the issues it discusses are rather complex.

The second reference Epiphanius makes to Jubilees is not so direct and can be found in his book "On Weights and Measures."

And he showed Moses through an angel that there would also be twenty-two heads from Adam to Jacob, otherwise Israel, when he said: "And I will choose for myself from his seed a people more numerous than any other people.” And the heads, which are the generations, concerning whom the Lord spoke, are as follows: Adam, Seth, Enosh, Kenan, Mahalalel, Jared, Enoch, Methuselah, Lamech, Noah, Shem, Arpachshad, Shelah, Eber, Peleg, Reu—for the Scripture omits Cainan from the number —Serug, Nahor, Terah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, otherwise Israel —altogether, twenty-two generations. Therefore there are twenty-two letters among the Hebrews, which are these…Therefore also there are twenty-two books of the Old Testament; but they are said among the Hebrews to be counted as twenty- two though they are (really) twenty-seven, because five of their letters also are double…for the books also are counted in this manner. 

On Weights and Measures, pg. 43

Epiphanius then goes on to list those books by title. They are as follows:

Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges/Ruth, 1-2 Kings. 3-4 Kings, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, the Twelve minor prophets, Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon,  Daniel, 1 -2 Chronicles, 1-2 Esdras, Esther.

That is the same list as Jerome gives and it also excludes Jubilees from the canon despite referencing it when refuting the Sethians and using it authoritatively. It is very important to understand that 1-2 Esdras is what we know as Ezra and Nehemiah. The book referred to as 2 Esdras which is part of the Christian apocrypha is not included in the Hebrew bible and was not found at Qumran as Timothy claims it was. It is also known as 4th Esdras. It was written after the destruction of the temple in 70 A.D. That means Jesus did not quote it as Tim is wont to say. Here we see Tim's astonishing ignorance on full display in this graphic from his annotated Jubilees which proclaims this massive error.


Jubilees, Timothy Jay Schwab, pg. 22

In his notes on Jubilees 2:22-23 Charles says there might be a lacuna at verse 22. He then cites various authors such as Epiphanius, Syncellus, and the Midrash where groups of 22 are mentioned. Among these groups of 22 are 22 letters and 22 sacred books. He then fills in the lacuna as follows:

Thus we should probably restore the lacuna as follows: — As there were two and twenty letters and two and twenty (sacred) books and two and twenty heads of mankind from Adam to Jacob, so there were made two and twenty kinds of work, etc. The thirty-nine books of the Old Testament are equalised to the number of letters by the following device. The twelve minor prophets count as one book, similarly Judges and Ruth, Ezra and Nehemiah, Jeremiah and Lamentations are taken together, and the two books of Samuel, Kings and Chronicles are reckoned respectively as one each. Thus the thirty-nine are reduced to twenty- two. 

Charles does not supply this emendation in the text but leaves it in his footnotes. James VanderKam has this to say about the supposed lacuna:

No text of Jubilees (Hebrew, Ethiopic, Greek, Syriac) says anything about 22 letters and 22 books. These categories were added later (and in other texts) to Jubilees’ list of two groups of 22.

VanderKam, Jubilees Commentary, pg. 199

VanderKam says no known copy of Jubilees has this text and there is not even space for it in copies found at Qumran. According to him there is no lacuna in the text.

What really matters though is that Tim thinks Charles is correct and has this note in his annotated Book of Jubilees:

It is probable that at end of 22 above there is a lacuna in the text (indicated by the dotted line). Charles restores the missing words as follows: As there were two and twenty letters, and two and twenty (sacred) books [viz. in the Old Testament], and two and twenty heads of mankind from Adam to Jacob, so there were made two and twenty kinds of work, etc. 

Jubilees, Timothy Jay Schwab, pg. 60

If this verse is authentic then what it means is that the Book of Jubilees is not scripture. Here you have the author of Jubilees telling us there are 22 sacred books. It would be impossible for Jubilees to fit anywhere in a list of 22 sacred Hebrew texts. Perhaps one could pair it with Genesis and make the two one book but no list of the Old Testament canon ever has that pairing. There are always said to be only five books of Moses and Jubilees is never on that list. One of the oldest lists of the Old Testment canon comes from Melito of Sardis who lived in the 2nd century.

13. Melito to his brother Onesimus, greeting: Since you have often, in your zeal for the word, expressed a wish to have extracts made from the Law and the Prophets concerning the Saviour and concerning our entire faith, and has also desired to have an accurate statement of the ancient book, as regards their number and their order, I have endeavored to perform the task, knowing your zeal for the faith, and your desire to gain information in regard to the word, and knowing that you, in your yearning after God, esteem these things above all else, struggling to attain eternal salvation.

14. Accordingly when I went East and came to the place where these things were preached and done, I learned accurately the books of the Old Testament, and send them to you as written below. Their names are as follows: Of Mosesfive books: Genesis, Exodus, Numbers, LeviticusDeuteronomyJesus Nave, Judges, Ruth; of Kings, four books; of Chronicles, two; the Psalms of David, the Proverbs of Solomon, Wisdom also, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs, Job; of Prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah; of the twelve prophets, one book ; Daniel, Ezekiel, Esdras. From which also I have made the extracts, dividing them into six books. Such are the words of Melito.

He lists 26 books. Except for the omission of Esther and the addition of Wisdom his list is identical to that of Jerome and Epiphanius. The difference is that he counts some books as separate which are counted as one elsewhere. That is very significant because it shows a continuity within the church regarding the Old Testament canon regarding the book under question. Jubilees never makes the cut at anytime whatsoever.

Origen is also on the list of men who cited Jubilees. Origen, like Jerome, was a man of letters. He was one of the most learned men of his day or any day. His output was voluminous and he was famous for making several critical editions of the Hebrew bible in both Greek and Hebrew known as the Hexapla. He knew what the Hebrew canon was and it did not include Jubilees.

1. When expounding the first Psalm, he gives a catalogue of the sacred Scriptures of the Old Testament as follows: 

“It should be stated that the canonical books, as the Hebrews have handed them down, are twenty-two; corresponding with the number of their letters.” Farther on he says:

2. “The twenty-two books of the Hebrews are the following: That which is called by us Genesis, but by the Hebrews, from the beginning of the book, Bresith, which means, 'In the beginning'; Exodus, Welesmoth, that is, 'These are the names'; Leviticus, Wikra, 'And he called'; Numbers, Ammesphekodeim; Deuteronomy, Eleaddebareim, 'These are the words'; Jesus, the son of Nave, Josoue ben Noun; Judges and Ruth, among them in one book, Saphateim; the First and Second of Kings, among them one, Samouel, that is, 'The called of God'; the Third and Fourth of Kings in one, Wammelch David, that is, 'The kingdom of David'; of the Chronicles, the First and Second in one, Dabreïamein, that is, 'Records of days'; Esdras, First and Second in one, Ezra, that is, 'An assistant'; the book of Psalms, Spharthelleim; the Proverbs of Solomon, Meloth; Ecclesiastes, Koelth; the Song of Songs (not, as some suppose, Songs of Songs), Sir Hassirim; Isaiah, Jessia; Jeremiah, with Lamentations and the epistle in one, Jeremia; Daniel, Daniel; Ezekiel, Jezekiel; Job, Job; Esther, Esther. And besides these there are the Maccabees, which are entitled Sarbeth Sabanaiel.” He gives these in the above-mentioned work. 

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/250106.htm

He has a 22 book canon which includes: 

Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges/Ruth, 1-2 Kings. 3-4 Kings, Isaiah,  Jeremiah/Lamentations/Epistle of Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon, Daniel, 1 -2 Chronicles, 1-2 Esdras, Esther, the Maccabees

His canon is different from Jerome in that it excludes the 12 minor prophets and includes the Maccabees. The similarities lie in that it conforms to the number 22 and it omits Jubilees. It is a point of fact that no canonical list of scripture from any Christian theologian has Jubilees or Enoch. Not even the 23 book canon of Jospehus leaves room for Enoch or Jubilees.

In his introduction to Jubilees Tim appeals to the Ethiopian church for Jubilees' canonicity. 

The Abyssinian Church, which has continued Jubilees as canon, names it the“Book of the Division of Days,” from the first words at the beginning. This also proves this book was not only in circulation but considered scripture at least by some at that time. 

Though continued in the Ethiopian canon this entire time to today, in the Western world, Jubilees appeared lost for about 400 years until it was rediscovered in the Ethiopic. Multiple English translations from the Ethiopic were released from the mid-1800s to mid-1900s before the Dead Sea Scrolls were found. Once discovered in Qumran as the sixth most numerous scroll, Jubilees is known to have originated in Hebrew and those fragments coalesce with the Ethiopic. This really proved this was preserved in the Ethiopic Geez language and there is no scripture which ever says that is not acceptable. That is a false paradigm in scholarship as the book is preserved regardless and a rmed in Hebrew as well.

Book of Jubilees, Timothy Jay Schwab, pg. 40-41

Jubilees was preserved in Ge'ez (not Geez) but so what? The canon of the Ethiopian Church adds more than just Jubilees and Enoch. If we are going to hold them as a kind of standard and accept their inclusion of Jubilees and Enoch as legitimate then why should we not adopt the other books they include? Why not adopt their heretical monophysite or miaphysite Christology? Why appeal to this group at all? Tim rejects the authority of the Church to exclude books so why would he accept the authority of this Church to include books? His argument is contradictory.

Tim makes quite a big deal out of some of the Church Fathers referring to the Book of Jubilees. He even makes unfounded claims like this:

The early church fathers quoted and used the Book of Jubilees in sermons through history until about the 14th century.

Jubilees, Timothy Jay Schwab, pgs. 39-40

That is quite an exaggeration and shows that Tim is not familiar with the writings of the Church Fathers or the scholastics at all. Reading this sentence it would appear that Jubilees was constantly and regularly appealed to in sermons until the 1300's. That is a lie. If Tim was familiar with the Church Fathers he would know that the Book of Jubilees is not cited in patristic or medieval theological writings in such a manner as he is claiming. If what he was saying were true there would be more than 26 entries on his list. Just think of all the men missing: Augustine, Basil, Athanasius, St Maximus, John of Damascus, Photius, Gregory the Great, Gregory of Nyssa, Chrysostom, Gregory Palamas, John Cassian, Cyprian, and the list could go on. I would encourage Tim to take his book money and invest in a nice set of the Fathers and actually read them. He won't find them citing Jubilees. 

Tim is basing his claim that the Church Fathers cited Jubilees as scripture on the list R.H. Charles provides in his introduction without actually looking up the references to see what these theologians wrote about Jubilees and how they employed the text. The fact that Tim did not bother to research these citations is shown by the bungled reference to Pope Gelasius where he gleefully asserts that even a Pope cited Jubilees. Let's look at one more citation of Jubilees which Tim lists and that is Severus of Antioch. Tim writes:

542 Severus of Antioch discusses the death of Moses and an argument over his remains between satan and the Archangel Michael. This originates in Jubilees and no where in the Old Testament.

On it's face this is completely wrong because Jubilees does not end with the death of Moses. The story of the death of Moses is not in Jubilees. Nevertheless here is what Severus writes:

Therefore the Holy Scripture says in Deuteronomy also: ´Moses the Lord's bondman ended his life there, in the land of Moab, by the word of the Lord; and they buried him there in the land of Moab beside the house of Peor, and no man hath known the end or his grave to this day; which is also confirmed by that which the evangelist wrote, since Luke one of the evangelists said in the story of the rich man and Lazarus, ´And it happened that the poor man also died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom. These same details about the burial of Moses men have stated to be contained in an apocryphal Book the more succinct title of which is 'The book of Generation or of Creation, which Moses himself wrote for us.’ 


While Severus refers to Jubilees the story is likely to be found in the alleged missing chapters of the  Assumption of Moses. Like Jerome he refers to Jubilees as apocryphal. Tim gets this reference totally wrong showing once again how poor a researcher he is. He published his own version of Jubilees. Did he really forget that the story of the death of Moses does not occur in Jubilees? That is an incredible blunder.

It is quite evident that while Jubilees was cited by some theologians it was never upheld as being canonical by the normative Orthodox Church. The Ethiopian church is not Orthodox as they reject Chalcedon and teach a false Christology. The two men most familiar with the Hebrew text, Jerome and Origen, do not include Jubilees in their list of canonical scripture nor does Epiphanius, who cited the text authoritatively, or any other Christian theologian. Tim's proof for the contrary is frivolous and frangible. A citation of a text does not mean the person thinks the text is canonical scripture. As Tim says, "That's a false paradigm."